Problemas con mi Cherokee 93 4x4 5.2

necesito ayuda mi camioneta hace una falla rara komo si le faltara alineación pero esto es algo peor ya k kuando voy manejando arriba de 100km/h en tiradas largas la camioneta vibra extredamente fuerte y hasta k no desciende la velocidad a menos de 60km/h no deja de vibrar que puede ser la falla espero su ayuda

Saludos!!!

woobling death... bamboleo de la muerte... inspecciona el estado de la track bar, y el ballanceo de cauchos.... usa el buscador y revisa hay mucho material al respecto... ahh date una miradita por las reglas del foro, para que veas donde te tienes que presentar... de todas maneras no tardan en caer por aca los sabios de la materia para ayudarte con tu burra.

Bro !!! ante todo bienvenido!!!
revisa el estado del amortiguador de dirección , trackbar... etc!!!
Saludos!!!

Pana revisa el cardan delantero; puede ser que la rotula que esta entre la doble cruzeta se te daño y el cardan este desbalanceado, has lo sigiente: baja el cardan delantero y prueba la camioneta y si no tiembla mas ahi tienes el problema...

Amigo bienvenido a nuestro Foro! Aqui encontraras todo tipo de informacion sobre nuestras XJ!

Viejo eso parece lo que llaman el bamboleo de la muerte! Rota los cauchos. Balanceo, Alineacion... Comienza de los mas sencillo a lo mas complejo..

Francisco escribió:necesito ayuda mi camioneta hace una falla rara komo si le faltara alineación pero esto es algo peor ya k kuando voy manejando arriba de 100km/h en tiradas largas la camioneta vibra extredamente fuerte y hasta k no desciende la velocidad a menos de 60km/h no deja de vibrar que puede ser la falla espero su ayuda

Saludos!!!

Ya le hiciste el tren delantero si no mándalo a revisar y ellos te dicen que pieza esta desgastada o mala.

manda tambien a balancear los cauchos.

eso paresen los muñones desgastados

puede ser mucho lo q conlleva a eso desde terminales y muñones malos pasando por amortiguadro de direccion vencido track bar mala cardan delantero cauchos sin alineacion y balanceo y si tu camio tiene lif mucho mas

Amigo tienes una gran cherokee no una cherokee (Son distintas)

En cuanto a las causas que del bamboleo de la muerte hay MUCHAS aqui te pongo la lista de TODAS las causas y en que orden revisarlas (esta e ingles pero se entiende)

a number of things can cause death wobble. you just have to get under there and look at every single steering component under there and go from there. even if one bolt is loose you can get DW

INFO TAKEN FROM TIM_MN ON NAXJA

I found a really good DW posting on J U -
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Curing death wobble is defiantly a reality. Death wobble isn’t similar to a wobble from an unbalanced tire. It is by far worse. When death wobble hits you will know… it’s a violent shake from the front end that feels like the Jeep is about to fall apart. Usually when it happens the only thing you can do to stop it is to slow down.

The first steps to eliminate death wobble should be a visual inspection of each component, check the bushings, tire balance and an alignment. There are some common things you must check anytime you lift your Jeep. Death wobble is experienced mostly on lifter Jeeps, however it is not uncommon for someone without a lift to experience the dreaded DW. Listed below are a few things you can check.

Torque specs:

Item ........................................ Ft. lbs. ................... Nm

Lug nuts (1/2 X 20 w/ 60* cone) .... 85-115 .............. 115-150
All tie rod ends .....................…..... 55 ...................….. 74
Steering (both ends) ..............…..... 55 ................….... 74
Shock absorber upper nut .............. 16 ................….... 22
Shock absorber lower nuts ............. 17 ................….... 23
UCA frame end .....................…...... 66 ..............…..... 89
UCA axle end .........................….... 55 ................….... 74
LCA frame end ......................…..... 85 ...................... 115
LCA axle end .........................….... 85 ...................... 115
Track bar frame end ..............…..... 60 .................…... 81
Track bar axle end .................….... 40 ..................…... 54
Track bar bracket bolts ..........…..... 92 ...................... 125
Track bar bracket nut .............….... 74 ....................... 100
Track bar bracket support bolts ...... 31 ....................... 42
Hub bolts (3) ............................…. 75 ....................... 102
Hub- axle bolt ..........................….. 175 ..................... 237

Alingment specs (stock):

Angle ............. Preferred ........... Range ............. Max R/L diff.

Caster ............ +7.0* ........ +5.25* to +8.5* ......... 1.25*
Camber ........... -0.25* ....... -0.75* to +0.5 ........... 1.0*
Total Toe-in .... +0.25* ....... 0* to +0.45* ............. .05*
Thrust angle .... 0* to ± 0.15*



Check your Track Bar, play in this can cause the axle to shake.
1. Bushings - check to see that they are not worn. Looks for cracks, and excessive play)
2. Angles - this angle should be the same as your draglink. Use an angle finders you can get at sears to determine this, don’t just eye-ball it.
3. Bolts – Make sure all bolts are tightened down to spec (some lift components have a different torque spec then)

Check the Axle, your mounts may be worn
1. Check the axle mount. Here is a good write up on a wallowed out bolt hole
http://www.jeepin.com/features/trackbarfix/index.asp
2. Check your Universal joints, a binding or lose U-Joint can cause DW
3. On the frame end if you still use the conventional Tie Rod End or (TRE) make sure that there is no play in this, as play can cause DW.
4. Look/Check for worn/torn boots on ball joints/tie-rod ends.

Check your Tires
1. Out of balance tires can cause shaking in the front end, which can lead to death wobble.
2. Make sure all of your lug nuts are tight, (Sounds elementary but it happens to the best of us)

Check your Frame
1. Small cracks in the frame can cause the steering box to feel loose, Shaking from DW can only make this worse. 33’s and larger should have some form of Steering box brace, or frame brace in.
2. If you have upgraded your frame mount, make sure its cranked down nice and tight. (best to use an impact gun)
3. A busted Frame Mount can cause play in the front end causing DW (Keep a watchful eye on the welds as welds in sheer can break over time.

Make sure you have a good alignment
1. After you get an alignment done, have them print out the numbers for you. An XJ should have a 7* positive caster angle. A lifted XJ can’t always have that high of a number because the pinion would become out of alignment with the front driveshaft. Pinion angle takes precedence over caster.
2. Make you sure you go to a place that will adjust the caster if necessary (either by shims in the frame side of the LCAs, or adjustable LCAs).

The more adjustable parts the easier it is to tune in your suspension.
1. Adjustable Track Bar
2. Adjustable Upper and Lower Control Arms (upper ones above 4” of lift). Not only are they adjustable, but they are stronger.


Things to remember:
1. After any lift, get your Jeep professionally aligned, this is a REQUIREMENT, not a suggestion.
2. A Steering Stabilizer (SS) is not a quick fix for DW.
3. Make sure that the lift you purchase comes with all the required parts for a safe driving vehicle. (as long as its going to be a DD)
4. PLEASE ALWAYS DRIVE WITH YOUR FRONT SWAY BAR CONNECTED!

Entire list of everything that can cause death wobble:
-Front tires out of balance
-Front alignment out of spec
-Loose track bar
-Worn track bar bushings
-Worn track bar end
-Need adjustable track bar
-Bad bushings/joints in control arms
-Worn/damaged steering stabilizer
-Worn/damaged shocks
-Worn/damaged tie rod end
-Bad U Joint
-Bad ball joint
-Loose frame mount
-Steering box looseness
-Need drop pitman arm
-Driveshaft(s) not balanced
-Bad front hub assembly



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